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What happens when a blind man, a woman of color, and a wannabe Latino get together to discuss how diversity, equity and inclusion can impact businesses?
The PPP and Its Impact with Hannah Smolinski
by Choose Inclusion

Hannah Smolinski ( is Founder and CEO of Clara CFO Group and a Senior Advisor to Upside Financial. For this special and timely episode we are talking about the Paycheck Protection Program (PPP), its original implementation a year ago, the changes since then (including the new changes in effect this past week), and its impact on inclusion of all business owners in this country.

Here are some resources for business owners in regards to the PPP: - Upside Financial's lending partner for anyone looking to apply for a PPP loan - Upside Financial link for anyone looking to maximize their forgiveness - Hannah's YouTube channel for PPP clarity

You can listen right from our website or, if you prefer, click on the links below to listen on a variety of other streaming services:


Mike Hess

The Blind White IT Guy

Nina Baliga

The Woman of Color

UB Ciminieri

Wannabe Latino

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